Tenor: Video moving images, data-driven creativity and targeted content management will give us an exciting next year.
WW: Bernhard Herzig and Simon Muster, let's play a game at the end of the year: I throw keywords into the room and you please tell me your assessment of each: hot or dead? ... here we go: big data.
Bernhard Herzig: Hot, but that depends on the context. Big data itself has become more of a non-word; data-driven creativity is more relevant. This was very relevant in 2015 and will continue to be so in communication and for campaigns. CRM, personalization and creating a benefit for the end consumer - that's what it's all about. The greater the degree of personalization, the better users can be controlled. To do this, we need historical big data, where the challenge is to identify the relevant data and turn it into smart data, as well as real-time information with which the data must be linked: Where is the user located, what has he just looked at, what mood is he in, etc.? In this way, we can confront them with the right message at the right time and create a better experience that is of benefit to them. After all, we don't want them to want an ad blocker, we want them to say: Oh, that's handy that this offer is coming right now.
... Mobile
Simon Muster: Essential. It has already been incredibly hot this year and will remain an existential issue for the next two or three years. It's amazing how many companies have not adequately prepared for this development despite everything. I think there will be even more focus on mobile sites.
... and apps?
Pattern: The whole app universe is still needed at the moment, but I think it will be web-based in the future.
Herzig: Apps are not exactly dead, but they are much less important. I believe that as long as you have a constant benefit from an app, it still has a purpose - for example, you can only use certain sensors if you have an app as a container. But the advantages that apps had in the past, such as being able to do things independently of the network, will no longer be relevant. People are tired of apps. There's an app for everything and you install hundreds of them and then only use five. The magic that used to be attached to apps - I install it and see what great things it can do - has evaporated. Today, it's more about finding a solution for something. Whether it's an app or a microsite is irrelevant for the end consumer.
... Content marketing
Herzig: Hot. Extremely relevant!
Pattern: Yes, especially moving images, I would say. These days, almost everyone has a cam at home that allows them to produce moving images relatively cheaply and in a relatively short space of time. You no longer need directors, cameramen or lighting technicians. People now expect someone to explain something in a video instead of having to read about it. Low-budget video content will become a huge topic.
The low production quality of garage and living room films is also more readily accepted today than it was two years ago. It is no longer so much about the way video is produced, but about whether the content is right and useful to the recipient.
Herzig: It's like this. More relevant than the style is the subject matter and whether it is useful to the viewer. Is someone trying to sell me something, is it a promotion, can I learn something? Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether a brand or product is presenting a topic to me - if it interests me. Videos will keep our customers and therefore our industry very busy next year. At the moment, only a few companies are implementing videos consistently and there will be a scramble when it comes to who covers which topic and how. But this will also boost creativity in this area, not just in terms of visuals, but also in terms of content and solutions. That's good and exciting.
... Relationship marketing
Herzig: Hot. Very hot. Not just in 2016, but beyond. And in combination with big data - i.e. good data filtering and segmentation - and the production of good content. Two examples from Maxomedia: Firstly, the customer dialog for the Swiss Pass, where we had to answer the question of how the dialog with customers changes when a large proportion of the population has some form of public transport customer card anyway, Half-Fare Card or GA travelcard, etc. The focus of the dialog was therefore on increasing loyalty and strengthening the relationship: What opportunities does the travelcard open up for me, what added value does it offer me, for which topics is the travelcard the key?
Pattern: A second example is TCS ETI, a travel magazine. At its core, of course, it is about travel insurance, not an incredibly exciting topic. We have developed a travel magazine that is published monthly and describes one country at a time. There are also reports, recipes that you can cook - simply everything that is needed to keep the community, which loves to travel, interested and to occupy the topic of wanderlust with the TCS brand.
But that's not new, it's corporate publishing, only digital.
Herzig: The difference is that we take appropriate measures based on user behavior; for example, when we see which topic interests someone or which recipe they have downloaded, we provide additional material. In other words, of course you have to have something to say and do it well. But then the second step - and this is new compared to traditional corporate publishing - is to ask yourself what particularly interested Mr. Meier, what was his path? How long has he been a customer, what has he already bought, how active is he and what special offer could we make him? Or could he be an ambassador for our brand? This is the exciting new aspect of not only having data, but also evaluating and using it. And you can only find out how you could use it if you offer content.
However, this also makes customer care much more complex than it used to be - if you want to serve each customer in a targeted, needs-specific way.
Herzig: Yes, that's true. A lot of manpower is needed in this area at the moment. As we are only just entering this age of customer care and artificial intelligence is not yet at the level where such marketing processes can be automated - beyond "if they click here, we'll send them this" - we first need people to ensure that customers are served with content that is relevant to them. That is certainly the entry threshold that we, the companies, have to overcome on this path.
In times when, once again, savings are being made everywhere, I find it difficult for companies to build up manpower without being able to count on a guaranteed ROI. So what could generate turnover in the future clashes with the rampant austerity policy. Are we standing on the brakes?
Herzig: Sure. And there is also another stumbling block: CRM and the maintenance of customer master data are traditionally the responsibility of IT on the customer side. On the other hand, there is a communications department - and then the budget wrangling starts between the two areas, exacerbated by Swiss garden-variety thinking.
Pattern: As an agency, you usually have to deal with the marketing department. And you can have wonderful ideas, but at the end of the day it's all about bringing marketing and IT together. This is certainly something that absolutely has to grow together on the client side so that exciting projects can be implemented cost-effectively. Only good content or only good data screening are of no use at all. At the moment, the agency's role is to bring the two together.
But this requires a top-down process, i.e. the company management must develop an awareness of the opportunities for customer processing that arise from combining good content and central data - and then pass this on to the last employee. However, as I am currently observing, there is a lack of insight and imagination at the very top as to what opportunities could arise.
Herzig: Exactly. If you really want to do this consistently from A to Z, you have to connect many areas of the company, which is another difficulty. If we are talking about the customer experience itself, which is the basis for successful relationship management, then CRM is not just a tool that can be evaluated or replaced in IT, but it is the basis for many processes in the company that relate to dealing with the customer: How do we talk to them, what do we offer them, what kind of experience do we give them? As you rightly say, this fundamental issue still has to be programmed top-down at many companies. And it has to be programmed, because the measures that have been implemented so far have reached their limits. Now the CEO has to say: we want to put the consumer at the center and align our CRM accordingly. This decision changes business processes and the corporate culture, which is naturally a difficult step in times of cost-cutting measures. That's why this trend will be with us for a while yet; it still needs time to become established.
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