WW: For many, it would be a dream job. You're getting out. Why didn't you renew the contract you were offered at Leo Burnett as creative director for all of Europe?
Martin Spillmann: Yes, it is indeed a kind of dream job and a very special honor for a Swiss. They were three exciting years that I will always remember fondly. I have felt a lot of joy in this job for three years. But I haven't become three years younger either. Lately, however, the desire for independence has grown in me. To be able to dispose of my time independently. From this point of view, I can imagine that there are a lot of other things in life that I still want to experience and discover. I am ready for something new.
You've collected a lot of air miles. What else have your three years on the road brought you?
Above all, it was great to get to know all these exciting people in the different agencies. Being able to work with creatives across Europe, getting to know the different mentalities - but also seeing that other people in other countries have much bigger problems than we do.
For example?
That there really is much less money invested in advertising than there is here. That many are doing very badly economically. I think of Portugal, for example. There I met a large capacity of super creative people. But these top people have to work for salaries that we can't even imagine. An art director earning 1,000 euros a month or a star CD getting 3,000, and that in an EU country with European living costs. I had to admit that: It's a bit like a land of milk and honey here.
How must one imagine your everyday life, or a week as a CD somewhere in Europe?
I spent a lot of time discussing the work with the creatives. I also organized so-called "Kreatage" everywhere, something I had already introduced at Spillmann Felser Leo Burnett in Zurich. In the morning, the whole creative team is briefed on a specific task and teams are formed. Then the individual groups have a day to develop their ideas. In the evening, the results of each team are presented and discussed and the best ideas are proposed to the client. Sometimes the client is even present during the whole time. Even big customers. I did this with Fiat in Turin, for example. There, we remixed teams from all over Europe and brainstormed. Then we decided directly with the customer what to pursue further.
Were there some big campaigns under your leadership during that time?
In the end, it's more about giving impulses. The big things are worked out afterwards. The "Kreatage" are above all valuable in terms of recognizing and promoting talent. You can see which people come up with good ideas, which teams work well, and who can present their ideas well.
How often were you on the road?
If I look at it as a job, it wasn't very many working days. But it still became a lot because every trip has to be prepared. On top of that, there's the shifting of locations. Even if it's just one or two "Kreatage," you spend about a week on such an assignment, including pre- and post-processing. So I lived more abroad than with my family in Zurich. In addition, I participated in many juries. That's when I was on the road for the Leo Burnett network. This spring, for example, I spent a week in Belgrade for the Cup and a week in New York for the New York Festivals. In addition, there were the quarterly internal juries of the so-called Global Product Committee GCP of Leo Burnett, a meeting of the world's best creatives from the network, which takes place alternately on a different continent. At this meeting, which also lasts about a week each time, all of Leo Burnett's work created worldwide is judged and graded under the direction of global Chief Creative Officer Mark Tutssel. The last of these meetings I attended was in Buenos Aires, home to one of the most creative agencies in the network.
Were you also able to live out an old longing with these trips? After all, you worked as a CD at Young & Rubicam in New York when you were young.
Normally, you don't spend much time in a foreign city after work because there's a family waiting at home that you long for. That's why I usually wanted to get back home quickly. But yes, I like to travel. As soon as I'm in one place for a long time, I get restless. Traveling is inspiration for me. At the moment, though, I'm looking forward to being back in Switzerland.
Now you're quitting Leo Burnett. But you remain loyal to advertising. In what form?
I have gained experience over many years, both creatively and in building a business. Now I remain faithful to advertising in that I want to make this experience available to those who are interested in it. I will be happy to help them, now for example Serviceplan, where I am joining as a board member. But what I will still enjoy doing is developing concepts and ideas myself. So I'm not ruling out the possibility of carrying out one or two projects in the future, either on my own, with Peter Felser or with Serviceplan.
So no "goodbye to advertising"?
Not a radical one. I want to be open to new things in the coming period. I will be involved in various areas, culturally, for example. And above all, I will also cultivate what I have neglected in recent years. I have a pile of books that I have bought but not yet read. I also want to take more photographs and pick up where I left off 20 years ago. There are many things that excite me, so I don't want to work more, but less.
At Serviceplan, you again come across Peter Felser, who is Chairman of the Board of Directors there. "Never change a winning team?
On the one hand, my entry has to do with Peter Felser, and on the other hand with the people who run Serviceplan operationally, Christian Baertschi and Raul Serrat, whom I know from previous joint work, and Christian Sommer. But it's true: It's fun to be able to pull together with Peter Felser.
Do you see Serviceplan as an agency model for the future?
I think so. Basically, it will never be any different than that at the heart of good communication must be a good idea. This idea is more and more media-independent. You develop an idea for a brand and not for a specific medium. Afterwards, it's great if you have all the disciplines in-house that can implement the idea in a channel-relevant way. Whether in the PR department or digitally, Serviceplan has everything under one roof.
You could have stayed with Leo Burnett or Alpha 245 in VR: Why go to the competition?
I've already been through the expertise I can bring to Serviceplan twice: first with the set-up of Young & Rubicam in Zurich or later with Spillmann Felser Leo Burnett. There I certainly gained certain experiences that are now useful for an agency like Serviceplan, which is in the same phase of development. Of course, I could have stayed on the board of directors at Leo Burnett. But there comes a time when you have to tackle something new again.
To what do you attribute the success that you have already brought two agencies to the top?
Mainly on good people who felt comfortable together with me and Peter Felser and understood that we have a common goal and can achieve it together. It needs a lot of people to play along. The circumstances and the time must be ripe for it.
Did your complete withdrawal also have to do with wanting the new people at Leo Burnett to feel freer and develop independently?
Clearly, unequivocally. It would also be the case that certain changes are not made in an agency because the new people think it's not in line with the founders. There was a phase where I accompanied this agency, even after the sale of our shares. Peter Felser and I stayed on the board of directors until we were sure that Leo Burnett Switzerland could continue to run independently and our successors gave us a clear signal that they wanted to do it independently. Now the new management team can and should set their own accents and give the agency their personal signature.
Would a move to a large company on the client side also have been an option?
I don't think so. To be honest, I've never imagined moving to the client side entirely. A position in a large company at the level at which I now worked for Leo Burnett in Europe no longer appeals to me. I don't want to become a commercial traveler who is always on a plane. The years fly by, and at some point you realize: I've missed something. Especially on the private side. My goal is to spend more time with my wife and less time with a company.
But you will not become an early retiree?
No. The word early retiree is too early. In addition to my work as a creative on the board of directors of Serviceplan, I will remain on the board of ADC Switzerland and as vice president at the European ADC. I would also like to pass on my knowledge to the next generation, which is why I will continue to work as a lecturer at the Hochschule für Wirtschaft in Zurich and at the ADC Creative School. Some jurying will probably stay as well.
Other possible tasks?
Things that do something good for humanity. That sounds pompous or even like Miss Switzerland. But it should be things that want to make a difference. Or I can use my skills to help someone who wants to make a difference in their field that benefits everyone. At Spillmann Felser, we were involved in the vote to save the Cabaret Voltaire. Something like that would be fun for me again. Here I could let my network play and also give back something of the happiness I have been able to enjoy in recent years.
Interview: Andreas Panzeri
A Swiss makes a career in Europe. Martin Spillmann started with an education as Graphic Designer at the Kunstgewerbeschule Zurich. He worked as an AD/CD in various agencies in Switzerland and also as a CD at Young & Rubicam in New York. In 2002, together with Peter Felser, he founded Spillmann Felser Leo Burnett. In all these jobs Spillmann became one of the most awarded creatives in Switzerland. In 2004, he was named "Advertiser of the Year." In 2012, he sold his SFLB shares to Leo Burnett and became creative director of this network for all of Europe.